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Post by CommonWealth Asshole on Jan 22, 2009 0:53:27 GMT -4
ninja, for u to be a new leader.. nothing can be said about you, because you have made more progress than dkov, eggs, and lacey as a leader.. no offense to anybody but raptor will always be a better leader than anybody.. but ninja has yet to be leader long enough to be judged by anybody.. and as far as my judgement goes.. he's doing awesome.. i would love for rap to come back. maybe as a leader, maybe as just a member.. it all depends on what he decides.. and how ninja is doing.. i say if ninja is doing good.. leave it be for the time being, until maybe he cant deal with problems.
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Post by laceyball3r on Jan 22, 2009 1:02:04 GMT -4
hey in my defense i never stood a chance cuz eggs left me with no powers on forums and only reg admin on server so i really couldnt do much =)
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Post by CommonWealth Asshole on Jan 22, 2009 1:05:17 GMT -4
i dont blame you bro.. you did what you could. and you couldn't do more. so dont hold it against yourself, because i dont hold it against you myself.
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Post by -|[n0s]|- Leeroy on Jan 22, 2009 1:22:44 GMT -4
Rap will not come back as a regular member, i'm pretty sure he will come back as Leader or not at all.
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Post by CommonWealth Asshole on Jan 22, 2009 1:23:55 GMT -4
he would come back as a regular member.. he has before.. but the main reason i state that, is cause i read on the old forums, that he isn't on much anymore.. would be my guess
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Post by angel on Jan 22, 2009 1:46:13 GMT -4
I think nina should get a chance him and Rap can talk about it and work things out
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Post by -|[n0s]|- Leeroy on Jan 22, 2009 2:15:15 GMT -4
Rap is not going to split leadership with anyone, if he even takes the clan back.
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Post by CommonWealth Asshole on Jan 22, 2009 2:21:19 GMT -4
it will be like oldschool we know.. leader, commanders, admins, and so on.
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Post by -|[n0s]|- Leeroy on Jan 22, 2009 3:03:22 GMT -4
Exactly, rap may give creative leeway to ninja, but ultimately final decision making will go through him, and if he doesn't like it well u get the picture.
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Post by ninja0nasty on Jan 22, 2009 3:25:20 GMT -4
thats what i have now. 1 leader. commanders so on and so forth
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Post by CommonWealth Asshole on Jan 22, 2009 4:24:21 GMT -4
well i honestly dont believe, rap should take over, unless ninja gives the permission.. he is the one running the show now.. no matter how much i know raptor would be a better leader.. but in the time he's taken over, we've made that much more progress than we have before.. dont get me wrong, i would love rap to take over.. but i feel ninja is doing a good job, and until i feel otherwise, i dont think it should be taken from under him.
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Post by rApToR on Jan 22, 2009 9:44:12 GMT -4
Ninja,
This is rApToR. That statement was absolutly not meant for you. Anyone such as yourself who steps up and continues the legacy that is n0s such as you have has my full support. The conversation I had with Leeroy was from my heart. n0s is an emotional subject with me. I havent even kept up with the rank structure so I dont know who the current leaders are. When I washed my hands it was eggs, schenk, and charm. I see alot of post from some familier faces and it feels good that there are so many who still love n0s. Those of you who know me understand that I dont pussyfoot around. If you dont want to know what I think about something then dont ask me because I will surely tell you from my heart what I think whether you like it or not.
I have not stated any intentions of taking n0s over. I have been asked by Leeroy and a few others who obviously wish to keep their request quite to come back and restructure n0s back to what n0s was in years past. There is no doubt that mistakes have been made in the ranks of n0s. I made some and then DKOV made some when I turned it over to him. DKOV however realized that he had bitten off more than he had time for and had me step back in for the better of our n0s brothers and select a new leader. It takes a big man to care enough about something to let it go. n0s was never once in the past left without someone with full authority and power to run her. Everyone knows about the explosion that occured between me and the last leaders of n0s. Now maby you are seeing what I saw coming along time ago. I dont hold any grudges becuase I think that inexperienced Commanders and members could not see the problem coming and they supported their leader as I would have expected them to. Thats one of the foundational principals of n0s. "Back your brothers play"
I still keep up with the players of n0s as much as I can but i generally play in the EVO server. I have been asked on several occasions to wear their tags and was honored because they are a good group of guys. The truth is I've only ever worn one tag and that is the tag that Motive designed for n0s and I wore for many years. I dont know if I could ever wear another tag.
As I look at n0s from the outside I see some pretty serious problems that will never let the clan be a clan. It will remain a "click" if these problems are not resolved. Ninja you have your hands full. you have some tough desicions to make and they are not going to be popular with everyone. You will lose some friends over them. Have you ever heard the term "its lonely at the top"? You are getting readdy to find out bro. You will have to pick 2 of the people you trust the most and form a democratic forum to hekp you make these desicions but in the heat of it when an agreement cannot be reached or you feel that emotions are making desicions you may have to institute autocratic leadership. That means YOU make the final call. You need some guys that where around when n0s was thriving to help you. I would reccomend Leeroy as one of these Commanders. Take it back down to basics. Deal with the fueds immidiatly. Do not let friendship enter into your job as Leader. An example of this is me and bong. I loved playing with bong and we probably spend more time waring together than anyone but there where a few times that I had to drop the hammer on him because as leader I had the obligation to make that desicion.
As you can see Ninja you do have my blessing and full support. I respect your intentions and I will always support n0s.
Good Luck Guys!!
rApToR
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Post by angel on Jan 22, 2009 16:16:01 GMT -4
Thank you rap I know that will make ninja feel alot better and he needs the help you just gave him. Good support man!!
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Post by CommonWealth Asshole on Jan 22, 2009 17:41:54 GMT -4
i loved that hammer of yours!! but damnit it was big!! LOL Cleared alot up in that post.. a whole lot! DAMNIT RAP!!! I MISS YOU!
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Post by -|[n0s]|- Leeroy on Jan 22, 2009 19:29:59 GMT -4
Ninja, if u want to do this, i'll help you. I'm not saying you should ask for my help by any means... but if u honestly want to give this a try i will help you, but if i feel as tho im not working to get to the n0s that i loved so much years back than my help will turn into something not needed.
The old n0s is not unacheivable... it is very close, like rap said we had alot to do. While i understand if Rap doesn't want to get involved for whatever reason that is his decision and i respect that, but everyone should know the foundings n0s was based on, and i am going to drill that into each and every member that n0s gets. If they can't hack our foundings like Rap drilled them into me, they aren't our brothers.
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